threat from the outside to the u.s. economy? >> the fiscal cliff. >> well, first of all, i think there are issues that are beginning to improve, and you know, whether you look at the euro zone, making progress, but certainly improving, and with good numbers, because if you look at the aggregate euro zone deficit or debt, those numbers are better. china's numbers have improved lately, and you have political stability back. so the volatility of the instability factors that are outside have reduced overtime. the real threat that we have is here, with us, and that can be addressed. >> but when you look at -- i understand that bangs being downsides our down afraided, you have more than 11% unemployment in the euro zone, which is a good deal higher than here, are those things threats to the u.s. economy, or do you think it is now destabilizing, or has the potential to destabilize the world economy? >> i think because it is relatively closed, it trades with itself and immediate neighbors, is less vulnerable to what happens outside, for instance in europe. but, the consequences would be